Through the floor?

Elsa Sereth White What else is there?

I went through my bed and floor a couple nights ago. It felt exactly like in the stars.

In projection, Usually there’s a force that pulls me out of my room, through the ceiling and to a particular star where the journey unfolds and I’m shown something important. I can resist the force if I want, and go a different direction, though If I do this I feel like I missed out on something important.

In the rooms under the floor, there was also this same force. It guided me toward items in the room. I suppose if I went into an item a world would unfold and I’d be shown something, just as in the stars.

I once heard that you shouldn’t go downward, through the floor. It was this thought that made me resist entering an item once I got down there. But oh how I keep wondering what I missed.

Here’s the thing, most peoples notions of hell, and the...(continued)


Posted over 4 years ago | 669 views

Visions While in Meditation

While Meditating before astral projecting, I often see visions of spirits that are around me. When I start, I always try to visualize the love, and the light of Jesus, flowing through and around me, breathing in and out. Afterwards, sometimes, during my breathing, while I stare into the darkness, I get glimpses of crazy stuff. Things that My imagination couldn’t possibly make up. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a dark image. It’s large black vertical eyes took up its entire cold white face. It had a small round mouth, I suppose to suck dark energy from its victims. Seeing this kinda took me out of the mood. I suppose I need to say my protection prayer more often. I drew a picture of this thing. Does anyone know what this may be? {"status":"500","error":"Internal Server Error"}

Guess I can’t download...(continued)


Posted almost 5 years ago | 486 views

Regular LD ---now for OBE

Hello all,

New to the forum.

A little about myself...I have had various astral experiences over the years...despite extensive studies and practice, I've had little control and at one point had really blocked third eye vision...kind of a long story, but from some entity attacks and astral interference I lost my vision although maintained a high level of clairsentience.

Someone I know very skilled in OBE was able to get a look into why I was experience limitations and remove them and amazingly immediately after I started having more third eyesight and very lucid dreams every night.

However, I'm still having issues getting out of my body. I am very proficient at staying awake while being physically asleep...it's the projection part I seem to have issues with.

Any new techniques or tips would be helpful.

Had some dear friends...(continued)


Posted almost 5 years ago | 576 views

Soul travel question

Hi there im jos nice to meet you all,

i want to know about soul travel. i have heard its not exact the same as astral projection. i have googled about soul travel but could not found anything.

Q1. do you guys know what is a other term for soul travel?

Q2. also i would like to know when somebody is astral projecting or soul traveling. can they visualize a object or a person in there minds eye. just like in the wake state?

im not asking if they can manifest a object in front of them while A.P or S.T. but just visualize it in there minds eye.

okay thanks,


Posted about 5 years ago (updated about 5 years ago) | 464 views

Astral projection as a young child without trying?

Elsa Sereth White What else is there?

Sounds like you were quite the astral projector as a child! My experiences involve moving through realms via rooftops and ceilings too actually. There are really a lot of layers involved in these transitions, aren't there? Like how you had the realization you're dreaming, and then you move out of it, to your room, which is another kind of in-between realm.

If you were uncomfortable with the knowledge you were dreaming (actually, I can see how this could be uncomfortable for a kid-because no one talks about it in daily life, so it seems like it's not supposed to happen and like the world turned upside down) then I would guess that the "WHAT ARE YOU DOING" was your minds own mechanism for waking yourself up -especially if you were back in your room and can here some people talking. Maybe you really...(continued)


Posted about 5 years ago | 14299 views

First 'experience' and wanted opinions !

Elsa Sereth White What else is there?

Seems like you were aware during the hypnogogic sleep stage. It's kind of like how we can be aware in the REM stage, for lucid dreaming (the Tibetan monks who practice lucidity while asleep can even become aware during the deeper stages of sleep!) I think awareness in the hypnogogic stage must be necessary for transitioning into the astral plane at the start of sleep, for thats when you can concentrate on leaving your body. I find it much easier to transition from a REM state though, personally.


Posted about 5 years ago | 864 views

Attempt at astral projection.

I have been praticing it from the last 5 days. And today was the 5th attempt. My experience: 1. A sensation like slowly vibrating. 2 .My body did get a little heavy. 3. Back side of head started paining a little. 4. It felt like my head tilted on the left side but i dont if it was true. 5. I had these visuals and figures and quickly changing shapes while my eyes were closed with a blue color lightning sortof figure. 6. I could feel my body relaxed as i in beginning i could hear my heart beating then i slowly stopped hearing it.

I dont know what it was. It goes on for one hour but felt like 10-15mins.

Any suggestions ??


Posted about 5 years ago | 1096 views

out of body experience and nausea

thanks, elsa; i'll try it


Posted about 5 years ago | 967 views

how do yuo kno if you are in hypnosis

Elsa Sereth White What else is there?

Do you mean hypnogogic? It’s the very first stage as you drift off to sleep, just abstract or random imagery, shapes, colors, often stairs that you slip on or you might fall and jerk yourself awake. people often twitch in this stage. Lucidity in this stage is more difficult than in REM.

If your trying to stay aware through hypnagogic, it’ll be when you slip into a deeper relaxation and start to feel something undeniable, like vibrations, and hear an ongoing sound.

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing to notice in hypnogogic, it’s just simply the case that if you stay aware up until you hit hypnogogic, you’ll find yourself in that state where you can leave.


Posted about 5 years ago | 752 views

Instant AP’s

Elsa Sereth White What else is there?

From lucid dreams I’ve been projected instantly. I was hopping on rooftops, then suddenly went through a roof, through all layers of the earth, out the other side, shot into space and became a star. That all happened instantly, like something sucked me right out of my dream.


Posted about 5 years ago | 737 views

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