Hello all,

New to the forum.

A little about myself...I have had various astral experiences over the years...despite extensive studies and practice, I've had little control and at one point had really blocked third eye vision...kind of a long story, but from some entity attacks and astral interference I lost my vision although maintained a high level of clairsentience.

Someone I know very skilled in OBE was able to get a look into why I was experience limitations and remove them and amazingly immediately after I started having more third eyesight and very lucid dreams every night.

However, I'm still having issues getting out of my body. I am very proficient at staying awake while being physically asleep...it's the projection part I seem to have issues with.

Any new techniques or tips would be helpful.

Had some dear friends...(continued)

Hi there im jos nice to meet you all,

i want to know about soul travel. i have heard its not exact the same as astral projection. i have googled about soul travel but could not found anything.

Q1. do you guys know what is a other term for soul travel?

Q2. also i would like to know when somebody is astral projecting or soul traveling. can they visualize a object or a person in there minds eye. just like in the wake state?

im not asking if they can manifest a object in front of them while A.P or S.T. but just visualize it in there minds eye.

okay thanks,

Sounds like you were quite the astral projector as a child! My experiences involve moving through realms via rooftops and ceilings too actually. There are really a lot of layers involved in these transitions, aren't there? Like how you had the realization you're dreaming, and then you move out of it, to your room, which is another kind of in-between realm.

If you were uncomfortable with the knowledge you were dreaming (actually, I can see how this could be uncomfortable for a kid-because no one talks about it in daily life, so it seems like it's not supposed to happen and like the world turned upside down) then I would guess that the "WHAT ARE YOU DOING" was your minds own mechanism for waking yourself up -especially if you were back in your room and can here some people talking. Maybe you really...(continued)

Seems like you were aware during the hypnogogic sleep stage. It's kind of like how we can be aware in the REM stage, for lucid dreaming (the Tibetan monks who practice lucidity while asleep can even become aware during the deeper stages of sleep!) I think awareness in the hypnogogic stage must be necessary for transitioning into the astral plane at the start of sleep, for thats when you can concentrate on leaving your body. I find it much easier to transition from a REM state though, personally.

I have been praticing it from the last 5 days. And today was the 5th attempt. My experience: 1. A sensation like slowly vibrating. 2 .My body did get a little heavy. 3. Back side of head started paining a little. 4. It felt like my head tilted on the left side but i dont if it was true. 5. I had these visuals and figures and quickly changing shapes while my eyes were closed with a blue color lightning sortof figure. 6. I could feel my body relaxed as i in beginning i could hear my heart beating then i slowly stopped hearing it.

I dont know what it was. It goes on for one hour but felt like 10-15mins.

Any suggestions ??

thanks, elsa; i'll try it

Do you mean hypnogogic? It’s the very first stage as you drift off to sleep, just abstract or random imagery, shapes, colors, often stairs that you slip on or you might fall and jerk yourself awake. people often twitch in this stage. Lucidity in this stage is more difficult than in REM.

If your trying to stay aware through hypnagogic, it’ll be when you slip into a deeper relaxation and start to feel something undeniable, like vibrations, and hear an ongoing sound.

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing to notice in hypnogogic, it’s just simply the case that if you stay aware up until you hit hypnogogic, you’ll find yourself in that state where you can leave.

From lucid dreams I’ve been projected instantly. I was hopping on rooftops, then suddenly went through a roof, through all layers of the earth, out the other side, shot into space and became a star. That all happened instantly, like something sucked me right out of my dream.

Sounds like sleep paralysis, which can often happen when leaving your body. You were probably headed in the right direction but you woke up out of fear. I’ve entered the astral plane through sleep paralysis. You have to face the fear head on, challenge the creature/ man thing. And your sister felt it, are you sure? Well my gf said she felt me shaking once when I had sp...and a couple other times our dreams have overlapped. Perhaps two people can share sp too. If it was sp, I mean. hmm...did you feel paralyzed?

I like that idea of the astral body being around you rather than in you. It makes more sense to me in that matter is a concentration of energy field, and that being the case the field must extend beyond the body.